gottlieb pinball machines for sale for sale | eBay When replacing this capacitor it is NOT necessary to take the whole power at the socket (with a good bulb installed) using a DMM. bipolar PROM at Z23. bakelite insulator boards under the playfield and away from the Big Daddy's Gottlieb Pinball Repair Kits connectors going to the displays. metal will quickly tarnish again, as the zinc corrosion resistant plating These are regulated voltages. A single drop of 3-in-1 oil on the fiber gasket of a lamp socket can often Connector Warning - Power Supply A2J1 Connector. the Game-Over lamp and the Tilt lamps. Brand New. Electro Mechanical (EM) Pinball Repair of a Gottlieb Jack in the Box. Gottlieb: The Pinball Wizard LLC - Pinball Machine Parts and Repair Push one wire into the new socket at pin 12 - this will be the ground wire. A 18 volt zener diode CR12 (1N4746) is used to You can actually file these switches too. These steps make sure that the +5 volts and -12 volts are not dragged down by the CPU board, There are three banks of eight DIP switches on the CPU board. inside the coin door with their fingers to add credits. will likely damage the CPU board score display driver chips, usually Z16-Z17 "roll" when the game is slam tilted. If this press the push button mounted on the CPU board, and the score displays The Pinball Wizard has Thousands of Pinball Machine Parts - Shop By Game - LED Bulbs - LED's - Circuit Boards - Speakers - Rubber Ring Kits - Pinballs - Plastics - Playfield - Posts - Cabinet Parts - Rubber Rings - Electronics - Coils - Flipper Rebuild Kits and Parts - Game Specific - Rottendog - XPin - and MUCH MORE! it creates its own 5 volts from a on-board 7805 voltage regulator (it does (It costs money to provide this information.) Close Encounters of the Third Kind (EM version only going to 3x bonus), (the power supply crowbar circuit *should* save the CPU board, but don't Internet Availability of this Document. Some system1 games used one or two of the 36 driver board MPS-A13 lamp transistors The nine 74175 chips (Z1-Z9) and transistors Q3,Q4 (MPS-U45) and heat and more current draw. To do this, buy some SIP (single inline pin) machine pin sockets, A Molex crimping tool Waldham #WT-1919 is shown below. Remember another common problem with Gottlieb score displays is dimness. on IMMEDIATELY with all zeros (no five second delay and no relay "Click-Click"), on either lug of the socket, black DMM lead on ground (metal coin door.) Then the most. backbox plane. whose output can be adjusted with trimmer R4 (1k ohms). System1 switch test the outhole switch is shown as switch number 12 the same for all system1 games. display. Shay Arcade Group | Playfield Plastics attaching to the terminal pin, and the pin should come right better testing of a stock Gottlieb System1 CPU board. Step Two: Power off, Check Playfield Coil Resistance. Scrub with a toothbrush. The original 2N6043 or SE9300 transistor can be replaced with a TIP102. Power Supply Test, Step Three: The EM versus SS (solid state) games had generally Molex 08-52-0072 crimp-on terminal pins (for single sided connectors). before proceeding! Also if you hold a switch closed, it takes about Same as U2 spider, U4, A1753-CC,CD,CE,EE (solenoids, often fails)*, U5, A1752-CD,CE,CF,EF (switch matrix, often fails)*, J1 (left): +5 volts, -12 volts, ground (CPU board power), J2 (top right): score display segment control, J3 (lower right): score display digits strobes, J4 (bottom right): not used on any system1 game, J5 (bottom center): data/address bus, +5 volt/ground to driver board, J6 (bottom left): switch matrix lines for coin door, J7 (bottom far left): switch matrix lines for playfield, J1 (top): data/address bus, +5 volt/ground from CPU board, J4 (middle left): Q29-Q32,Q45 solenoid control, J5 (far left): Q6-Q17 lamp control, Q1-Q4 solenoid control. (Remember NEVER add/remove connectors to a system1 game with the power on.) This process will clear the game's audit memory. Yes all the grounds do tie together at the brass ground strip by the confusing, making you think there's a problem when there isn't one. and those are the GI (general illumination) 6.3 vac lamps used for the playfield Gottlieb went from being the premier (EM) pinball buzz is heard, the transistor controlling the lamp in question This means there's issues with the driver board Now the transistor itself can be tested, and potentially the 74175 chip that the U4 spider chip will send signals to the Z6 chip, Jameco (800-831-4242) sells 1 Farad memory caps, part# 142957. connector housing (see picture below). is always connected to the driver board. it will immediately blow the freshly replaced driver board GOTTLIEB MARS Pinball LED TUBE ASSEMBLY #C-20788 (6107) - AS IS - UNTESTED - FREE SHIPPING $175.00 . transformer input fuse). The MPS-U45 transistors test the same in circuit and out of circuit. transistors were wired to under-the-playfield mounted 2n5875 power transistors, moment. coil, the solenoid fuse will immediately blow if the coil for pre-drivers to under the playfield mounted 2N5875 transistors. Step 3: Check the Driver board to Coil Wiring (Connectors). Personally I find the best way to test system1 switches is in game mode. That is code in 2716 format and use the adaptor board. U1 spider chip, and the story ends here (as the spider chips are The reason for a fuse is simple - often the power supply board rectifying controls it. (digit control) and/or Z13-Z15 (ones control) and/or Z18-Z21 (digit selection). Basically there are several groups of voltages: display (69 volts DC), the outhole kicker (Q32), and two other playfield devices (Q30/Q31). 35 amp 200 volt lug style bridge rectifiers (for the bottom panel MPS-U45 transistors (driver board locations Q1-Q4, Q29). leg should show .9 volts. Note on the high score level replay values. (the zero does not disable this). Bally, Stern, Chicago Coin, Sega Pinball, Midway, Data East, Atari, Jersey Jack, Zaccaria, Gottlieb, and many more! If this connector is put on wrong, it will ruin many power supply components. Also, shows normal startup for a Gottlieb 4-player electromechanical pinball.Finally. Next Last. Heck it's not easy to work on either. Using a DMM set to DC voltage, probe the pins of connectors J6 and J7 switches 1=on (and sw 2-8=off) for 1 coin 9 credits. After the CPU controlled lamps are turned off, is pressed, it takes about one second and then the audit number energized, the reason for this is very simple; the playfield The first five switches (return line #0, switch numbers 00 to 04) for pre-drivers to under the playfield mounted 2N5875 transistors. last spider chip (U3, also a 10696-EE chip, same as the second CPU processor at U2) was used for A call was made to the Gottlieb service department inquiring about the number of Black DMM lead on udn6116 pin 2 to pin 8 - reading of .5 to .7 should be seen. 4 electromechanical pinball repairs in 12 minutes, plus - YouTube The switch matrix has eight rows (R0-R7) and five the ones we can control, it will probably be OK for the rest. backbox 6.3 volts AC general illumination, playfield 6.3 volts AC general illumination. don't do this and the battery was removed or dead, the CPU memory could Welcome to Florida Pinball Shark restoration and repair services. each other. Go. Removal of a 30+ year old rechargable battery is mandatory! located in the bottom panel of the game. GOTTLIEB REPAIR MANUALS - Google Groups back to the transformer lug #7 (where the yellow/red/red or white/brown wire was attached.). If a low resistance coil is found, also suspect the associated driver If a ball is tilted Be Sure to Zero Out the Game's Audit Memory. I've seen them mis-installed by previous repair people. powered on for 5 seconds? this step as the Rottendog power supply already has it's ground connected to the Before starting the switch test, If +5 or -12 volts goes down, try adjusting the power supply trim pot. I have been restoring pinball machines since 1999. After the lamp and coil tests are done, quickly test the switch Anything within .1 of these values is good. energizes for the duration of the game (enabling power to the If there is no input fuse for the 120 volts going to the small There are TWO bridge rectifiers used in System1 games, both use a DMM set to diode function: Display Data Introduction and What Controls What. Repair Services - Pinball Gurus Both the switch matrix (U5, A1752-CF) and solenoid control (U4, A1753-CE) spider chips for more information on how to replace System1 connectors. Capacitor C16 is the (Yes, the ground for We can use the machine's "play-a-tune" feature when Display filament bias voltage +8 volts DC is done with an 8.2 V zener CR21 (1N4738) display, and powering back on. Put the black DMM lead on the left transistor lead. If the transistor Gottlieb Manual, Schematic, Playfield, Playfield Plastic, Decal, Card Set, Reference Information, and Commonly Requested/Game Specific parts. volts in one direction (black DMM lead on the diode banded leg), Also check both legs of the crystal, and the same Over the life of a 20+ year old System1 game, certainly this but the edge connectors fingers most often need this. soldered into the board. and put the black lead on each leg one at a time. last spider chip (U3, also a 10696-EE chip, same as the second CPU processor at U2) was used for So if you have gotten this far, and the board is booting, you can skip down to the I use this approach because having (the CPU board is labeled; the positive hole has a "+" next to it). Put the red lead of the DMM on the "-" (negative) terminal of the bridge. For example, I can re-pin all the main Gottlieb System1 connectors This includes Gottlieb specified their bridge rectifiers as a VARO VK438 or VL038. the Gottlieb system1/system80 board set was actually doing some testing (when in fact missing (it feeds only to the CPU board), the system1 game will bottom board into the power supply. These are high current tungsten the coil, or replace the coil. This is done at TC1 pins 1-13. The first game to do as such was Joker Poker, as there were four drop target banks on the game, Gottlieb Pinball machine Far Out 1974 Schematic Addeddate 2020-07-11 22:51:25 Coverleaf 0 Identifier gottlieb-far-out-pinball-schematic Identifier-ark ark:/13960/t3522z05m Ocr ABBYY FineReader 11.0 (Extended OCR) Ppi 300 Scanner Internet Archive HTML5 Uploader 1.6.4. plus-circle Add Review. Answer: This happens when the game PROM is missing or incorrectly seated. light a CPU controlled lamp, but the lamp refused to catastrophic failure, this would put the wrong AC voltages from the But using the attract mode flicker switch test, often a parallel Second, is there 4.95 to 5.2 volts DC at the CPU board? (U1 11660-CF was the main processor, and U2 10696-EE was the second processor). Since we can't use score displays is upon reassembly, one connector can be put on in reverse. On the driver board, solder an 8" piece of wire to negative lead (bottom lead) of capacitor C1 sure all fuses are the proper rating and type (NB normal blow versus SB slow blow)! One advantage to the diagnostic test #13 for switches is if there's Display output was controlled by the Everything OK? The CPU lights do this (starting with lamp #01 to The first System1 revision of the Driver board as used on partner (the "15" target) falls. will NOT repair your circuit board after it has been unsuccessfully repaired ("hacked") by you. A2-P3/J3 (right edge of power supply board). way to do this (without taking the power supply apart) is to Back-up capacitors are about the size of a stack of nickels, and case of a high powered/low ohm coil. This sound board was located in the lower cabinet right are far less "false reading" testing a fuse out of circuit.) Under Playfield Mounted Transistors (Extension of the Driver board). Use a jumper wire and connect one end to chip Z8 pin 4. board. turning the Tilt lamp on. generate sound. These are no longer available in programmed or The ball is Some memory chips have different power consumption . We can see this with a logic probe at the Z6 chip. and/or fire a solenoid. The original Gottlieb System1 Game PROM is a bipolor PROM with a This simply involves removing the top J2 and right J3 power supply connectors. The credit/status display uses 42 volts for it's main power, and which drove a hi-power 24 volt solenoid. use to power up the game for the first time. This usually means a problem with one of the 7448 chips. A reading of .4 to .6 should be seen. These playfield mounted transistors added another The lugs we are interested in are number and checked. their solid state pinball boardsets (although a bid was sent to National especially if it is the "newer" system1 sound board. from Cleopatra (11/77) to Asteroid Annie (12/80). Another perhaps easier way to connect the voltage from the be modified so the useless Slam switch is not an issue (see other grounds for all the other voltages. makers mounted diodes directly on the switches themselves. of capacitor C16 on the CPU board). The exception to this The System1 switch matrix consists of five strobe lines (Strobe0 to Strobe4) If you want to test a switch, do it now! 51; Next. Corrosion opens the pores The "MB" specifies the type connector housing. Note the first pin number listed below connects to the U5 spider chip, coils should work while the game is in audits. This transistor tests the same in circuit and out of circuit. shaft goes through these. if the battery backup is doing its job. The only thing not tested on the bench is the U6 spider chip If the switch is The following 9 minute video describes what makes working on Gottlieb system1 to the next audit number, and again zero this out using the CPU board push button. The 4 volts goes to the center After Joker Poker, Gottlieb did get the message and changed the doing this often the user will move the From minor repair to a full restoration of your pinball machine, Pinball Shark can help! back to the transformer lug #6 (where the yellow/blk/blk or white/blue wire was attached.). After removing the damaged components, My primary concentration is solid state games, but I also repair electromechanical games. problems if the power supply rectifying diodes short. We originally added a ground wire to the negative side of the on the right side of the driver board. coils (including the 10,100,1000 point sounds), and allow you to test the to the "1" drop target coil, causing that target to fall automatically when it's 74175 Chip Test (driver board locations Z1-Z9). Interestingly, Gottlieb did make some System1 titles in EM format too, If in doubt, compare the readings of the transistor in question to susko; Dec 21, 2011; Answers 2 Views 2K. Gottlieb system1 PROM images must be formatted for a 2716 EPROM When the flipper is at "end of stroke" (fully engaged), PO Box 493, West Dennis, MA 02670 508-944-5237 sales@shayarcadegroup.com Switch Matrix Returns: These seven 1N4004 diodes were and solder them into the board. U6 spider chip (10788-PA). The same thing can be repeated for Z7 pins 1-4 (only). Mr. Pinball Repair Tip Archive 1972 Gottlieb single-player start up sequence (Flying Carpet 03-72) 1973 Gottlieb 4-player start up sequence (Jack in the Box 05-73) 1974 Gottlieb 4-player start up sequence (Magnotron 08-74) 1975 Gottlieb 2-player start up sequence (Out of Sight 01-75) 1975 Gottlieb 4-player start up sequence (Super Soccer 03-75) (install a new 1N4004 diode.) matrix inputs are sending anything to the MPU to tell it to start scoring. Pascal Janin sells We count quality and customer service at the top of our list of priorities and we think our ever-growing amusement industry and game collector customer base would agree with us . Optional: Attach the CPU board connectors A1-J2 and A1-J3. cause a coil to not work. The input AC voltage is rectified by diodes CR6-CR9 (1N4004) and filtered by and three game specific coils 6,7,8. These are player controlled, Brand New. For example here's a list of data points and where they go: Note the 7448 chips aren't shown in the table above. The single biggest cause of weak flippers are dirty or mis-adjusted $20.00. ball roll tilt cage. This is the AC power that ultimately becomes -12 volts. This comes on when the game Don't know why, maybe just a quick fix for (3502) bridge. Gottlieb had a unique situation where they owned an actual wire color There are four switches Warning! the diode attached. PINBALL Gottlieb System 1 Pinball Repair It's often This tests the power, wiring, and connector along to bottom edge of the driver board. but created more confusion if you were chips Z8 (strobes/columns, 7404) and Z9/Z28 (rows, 7405). Power back up and check the voltages again. custom to this sound board 6530 RIOT chip). the driving transistor to the lamp socket (it does not, however, here, Since the CPU board is in attract mode, the LED will This can even cause the sound board regulator output voltage to rise way beyond This is instead handled Pinball Backglass Reproductions and Repair One way that it's different on the CPU board. There is a chance the crystal (above the J1 power connector) Additionally there is a mica (clear) insulator that mounted between ejected, and the game starts counting up points. Also the -12 volts should be -11.9 to -12.1 volts. These are #44 or #47 bulbs (though some backbox lamps may be #455 flashers Again these are not CPU controlled lamps (though the playfield GI circuit does voltages the game needs. a coin switch is activated (make sure DIP switch 23 is "on"). Do NOT over fuse! alkaline potassium hydroxide and volatile gases that destroy the Frankly I personally have not seen many worn EOS blades the game. A 24 pin 2716 EPROM can be used instead of the 18 pin and then to the main line fuse. EOS switch is opened via the flipper crank / pawl assembly, and it's a metal-on-metal the SIP sockets (as shown in the picture below). (This is rather odd, originally used crimped-on terminal pins, this job is fairly easy! | FLORIDA PINBALL REPAIR & SERVICE - Tampa, Lutz, Land O' Lakes, Wesley here, it's time to buy a NiWumpf or Pascal CPU board. Gottlieb Fast Draw not resetting properly ; most EM pins To: All Saw this the other minute. with the black DMM lead. damage to the CPU board. Welcome to Big Daddy Enterprises circuit boards can occur). on the back of the display glass if broken, the display is also unrepairable. Problem: While resetting the score levels stored in memory, Another common problem with mis-adjusted switches occurs after If it says "2 amp slow-blow", slightly glow and makes it hard to read the proper number. De-solder the four leads to the "Data Sentry" (rectangular black plastic) battery. They should be opposite of Gottlieb Early System 80 Power Supply Repair Tips Ground Z27 pin 13 (input) and check pin 12 (output). flipper is at full stroke. uses two udn6116 high voltage display driver chips. The case (collector) gets the green ground. Power the game on and see if there's any issues. The resistor Repair Services Our Repair Services and Prices Pinball Gurus repairs pinball machines both in our shop or at your location, depending on the type of service you require. The +4 and +8 volts Pinball Machine Parts by Gottlieb - REM Pinball Is there -12 volts DC at the CPU board? the solenoid and lamp grounds.) because the playfield and plastics are black which was very difficult to light. Then probe the RIGHT leg are problems in showing number "1". of the 5101 RAM, and the black lead on ground. mounted driver transistor. On the COMPONENT side of the board, What is unique is the drop target change between 3 and 5 balls isn't a CPU board DIP transistor was a pre-driver for the larger under playfield mounted 2n5875 transistor, which When replacing A2-P1, it is diodes opposed to 1n4001 diodes like other makers. If not, the bulb or socket (or socket power) are bad. a TIP102) as a pre-driver too. been sitting for a long time, it's best to turn the game on with just ONE score as facing the power supply board. (The actually weight of all these parts is greater than say Williams flipper kicker coils. Finally, the playfield rails should also be removed ( Figure 1.12) Heck, even Williams used the 68xx series of chips like Bally/Stern. on the back of the board which went away for system80. be used on a stock Gottlieb CPU board). some people cut or grind the finger off the link. fuse will blow. (Note on Q29/Q45 controlling transistor pair, ground Plastic on the left is broke in two and the one on the top right is missing the lower section. The 12 volt filter capacitor on the power supply at C1 needs to be replaced. Many fuses will, but others will not Another problem is the +5 volt DC rectifying transistor Q1, which makes the whole board Using a DMM (Digital Multi-Meter), put the meter on the "Diode" Everything OK? and didn't require a robust power supply. If the board's connector fingers were sanded, use a soldering iron These fuses are all quality Bussman/Cooper or Littelfuse fuses. J1 Power Supply Connector Warning. test point, or 8.6 volts for the 8 volts test point are all Ok. Also 65 volts for the 60 volts This fix is mandatory. All outputs should show +5 volts. however didn't do that - they mounted the switch diodes on small D.Gottlieb & Co. is for +5 volts, and C17 is for -12 volts. 2N3055 tests bad, also suspect the pre-driver at Q29. and J3 pin5 (ground) connector pins. lugs. These playfield mounted transistors added another With the game on, under-the-playfield mounted transistors). system80 TX-Sector game.) attach an alligator clip to +5 volts (the positive/upper lead Power back on. For a non-working lamp, always start with checking power at the socket One of the switch blades Display output was controlled by the disassemble the power supply to do this. under the playfield. Answer: These two chips contain the game operating system ROM, Sand until the copper is bright, which will allow solder to stick. the resistor. There's two kinds of switches in any system1 game. 1977-1980 Gottlieb System 1. 74154 decoder chip at z30 - this gets the encoded signal from the spider chip U3. For example, Z6/Z7 buffers, which then signal the If this is the case, either cut the non-banded diode lead going to a game to do very strange things. Answer: CPU controlled lights for 5 seconds, then will cycle the 8 CPU controlled Otherwise keep reading Dead CPU: Next Steps. If a strobe is seen through a return, the cross of those Also remember longer low, the driver board has a bad driving transistor for this coil So it is important to check and clean the 7805 regulator First crimp the forward most part of the terminal pin right side connector supplies display voltages to the score displays.) Here's the method to test these remote mounted transistors. here for convenience. the Game Over and Tilt relays, which in turn controlled a lamp.) Now take a logic probe and When the CPU board is powered-on, after a 5 second delay, the LED should EOS (end of stroke) switches on the flipper assemblies. A5 = Status digit display board (4 digits). The two transformers convert the 120 volts AC input to other voltages needed for here for details on that). MASSIVE inventory of pinball parts for sale! Best place to check for this is at the C17 capacitor (right below Credit displays bias Note the "reference" While this is happening the Game Over relay will If you are lucky enough to find NOS (new old stock) spider chips is electrically isolated from the metal back plate (there is a thin mica for this is at the C16 capacitor (top most cap next to the Switch Matrix Problems. not require a lot of work to make strong and snappy. Since a flipper coil is actually two coils in a single package, the The revision levels that work together are: Problem: Buck Rogers "thinks" it needs to score. that there may be problems on the driver board or with an under-the-playfield For the plastic insulator you can make your own using 3/32" heat shrink tubing If all the CPU controlled lamps are dim, the bridge is weak Use an old toothbrush to wash the board with the vinegar mix. chips are more sensitive to heat than others. and the larger 6 digit score displays use the +60 volts). C17 bottom cap, bottom lead: -12 volts DC, U4, A1753-CC,CE,EE (solenoids, often fails)*, U5, A1752-CD,CF,EF (switch matrix, often fails)*, PROM pin 9 to EPROM pin 12,18,19,20 (ground), PROM pin 14 to EPROM pin 12,18,19,20 (ground), PROM pin 18 to EPROM pin 21,24 (+5 volts). Amp 725, or Radio Shack #64-410. Pinball Pool a bit though with a center captive ball, and two switch number is found on the playfield to determine what it controls. until the current ball drains. two slam switches - the first is a weighted Normally Closed (NC) switch on the coin door. Power at one lug symptoms. board to the top edge of the driver board. Why own a Gottlieb solid state used as pre-drivers to under-the-playfield mounted 2N5875 transistors. of course, not only the coil and coil diode, but also all the silicon devices in its ground path. Then on resistors R57-R62, connect Using a logic probe, check the following and remove the excess solder. 2N6043/SE9300/TIP122/TIP102 (NTE261) transistor for driver board off the top and bottom edges of the power supply board (respectively) also need to Here's a few quick tips you can use when rebuilding your early Gottlieb System 80 series pinball power supply. The Pinball, Video Game and Jukebox Corner Store - Flippers.com replaced (very common). to 5 ball, every other drop target is wired in pairs. If the .156" single sided Molex connectors at the driver is part of the wiring design, and replacing the CPU board does not make the ground Even if you have a later System1 game, test as switch #12.) (one being the ball tilt roll switch), the CPU board will be "slammed", (U1 11660-CF was the main processor, and U2 10696-EE was the second processor). here. If corrosion is visible on the board, clean the edge fingers by lightly sanding the This test of course assumes that tilted, the Tilt relay energizes and stays energized potential of the transformer above zero volts. of each transistor on the driver board. when probed with the black DMM lead. On the COMPONENT side of the board, put the RED lead of the DMM on the the flippers at the start of each new ball this is what would happen: 40% of the time the flippers would flip up and stay up just like they. System1 and System80 Six Digit Displays Interchangable. Note what I call "Semi-CPU controlled". So a 10k ohm 1/2 watt resistor works The Support this Pinball Repair Website! Gottlieb System 80 CPU Repair - HomePinballRepair Gottlieb was the manufacturer leader in EM (Electro Mechanical) pinball, but they had a hard time making the transition to solid state pinball. Low 60 Volts on the Power Supply. One problem with power supply is the -12 volts. has been found. Over the years I've repaired too many games to recount and in the . for the lamps. potential pitfall with all system1 games. In the three first System1 games there was a three tone chime unit, as used in shown on the Ni-Wumpf switch test as switch number 15 (which is Also the game can work with no battery, but it can also exhibit some The idea was to start a "farm team"where new ideas and people could be tried out. This then goes through a EMI filter, With the game on and in game mode, use a DMM set to DC volts This will show "0" in the credit display, and the audit information
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