Each week the Schearer family will hunt with a variety of weapons from archery, muzzleloader and shotgun to centerfire rifles and will not only focus on the hunt, but will be filled with educational tips to make the viewers better sportsmen and sportswomen. Former lead pilot of the Blue Angels John Foley has reached been in contact along with Remington Mcbee and several others. This is a new powder to me and I understand that it is a fast burn powder. I got the Titegroup on a recommendation. To help get you started with load data we have collected information from what we consider to be a reliable source for easy reference. Sowhat about Titegroup and what do some cases look like? Sponsored by many of the hunting industries leading manufacturers, he has conducted over a thousand hunting and fishing seminars across the United States and has hunted and fished extensively around the world. Looks like i will test some 4.0 and 4.2 as long as they stay below 1200. Me thinks not, but I could be wrong. Although her family hobby was horse shows and barrel racing, her father introduced her to USPSA in high school. I know a lot of USPSA shooters who use it for their 9mm minor loads. He retired from the North Kansas City Police Department after tours through Patrol Division and the K-9 Narcotics Unit, with additional duties as the Department Armorer, SRT Unit Sniper, and Range Officer/Instructor. No part of the landscape, from pop cans to squirrels, was immune to a 10 round burst from a Ruger. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. You can post now and register later. As long as they cycle fine in your guns, you should be good to go. Makes an impression on you. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Your previous content has been restored. Thanks for your patience. Can't keep enough at the house. It's for practice, not for competition. December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber. All calculations were done by hand using formulas, please let me know if anything seems off. From their home in Montana, Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha follows Chad, Marsha and their two boys-Walker and Wyatt-across the world in hunting adventures. I didn't think I was moving that fast, I just didn't know that I couldn't use FMJ data for the Berry's bullets. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Thanks for the input everyone! I wonder why the difference. Maybe Ill do another test with the chrono 10ft away and see if I get any difference in results, thanks. A lot of this powder fits in a case, over 10 grains, easily. 9mm 124gr. Titegroup weight? | 1911Forum Panel recommends more gun restrictions to lower military suicides, 12ga progressive reloader Ponsness Warren, (250) Hornady XTP 45 Cal 300gr Projectiles, Vintage Bushnell ScopeChief 22LR 4x scope. Hmmm, I use the .40 cavity and get pretty consistent 4.5gn drops with Titegroup. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. Load data for 147g coated bullet with titegroup - 9mm/38 Caliber In cases like this 9mm I would use the start data for the next heavier slug if that was there. My guess is 900 FPS jacketed load is getting close to not being able to guarantee the bullet always leaving the barrel, where a 1000 FPS load is more certain. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! What's the difference between the Berry's plated bullets and FMJ? This is my first time posting a link to a google sheets doc. I have been trying to get a 9mm 124gr RN load to reach 1200fps. A plated bullet (Berry's, Rainier Ballistics) falls between the two. Both are off according to the newer data I am not afraid to pull them apart and use data that I can easily find and a powder that has more bullets listed for it. containers. And how are you metering 3.3gr? You say that now. Titegroup is a fantastic powder for 9mm and .45ACP. Every match Ive been to that chronic has the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. HP and RN load data are practically interchangeable since you should be working up from the minimum anyways. 9mm 124gr - Max Loads for CFE, Titegroup, Power Pistol - AR-15 I shoot X-treme plated at 4.1 grains. Depending upon the cartridge overall length. He volunteers as an alter sever at Mass on Sunday at church and is a member in the Civilian Airpatrol Program. 4.2 of titegroup over a 124FMJ is my 9mm load. Is this not a safe load? For very low charge weights the opening is not big enough to constantly fill the volume resulting in very erratic metering. This powder, like other very fast pistol powders, are not good for higher velocity ammunition and really only good for budget shooting ammo, competitions, or standard pressure ammo. Be sure to enter theNES/MFS March Giveaway ***Taurus G3c***. Powder is generally +/- 0.1 gr as it dropped using a Hornady powder drop on my Dillon xl650(although usually right at the listed charge). In Brians first full season, he achieved several top ten finishes, two regional match wins, and a 20thplace overall finish in the National Rifle League. Dianna currently competes in the role of Captain for Team Benelli. That will allow you to get a finer-tuned powder drop. I have tried this load out of my G34 and I am getting around 140PF to nearly 150PF. What type of a load are you attempting to develope? If you work from the max COL until they feed from the magazine and chamber correctly, you should find your ideal COL. My standard load is 124gr. Titegroup 3.4grs 968 FPS G34 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 668 Scottsdale, AZ Posted January 28, 2018 Notes 2: 3.5grs Tite Group Distance to Chrono (FT): 5.00 Ballistic Coefficient: 0.212 Bullet Weight (gr): 147.00 Temp: N/A F BP: N/A inHg Altitude: 0.00 # FPS FT-LBS PF 10 957 298.99 140.68 9 947 292.77 139.21 8 959 300.24 140.97 Since opening GA Precision, George has been building some of the finest precision bolt guns and custom rifles. This is a capture from the Sierra load data with Titegroup starting at 1000fps. Only time I used TG in 9mm it was 4.5grs. Titegroup powder in 9mm - Too hot? | The High Road 6 grains? Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Titegroup for 9mm? | Carolina Shooters Forum When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. I have seen anything from 3.7-4.4 grains recommended. They're mostly for use in an M11/9 submachinegun but they work fine in a S&W Shield also. CFE Pistol & Titegroup loads for 115GR Plated RN 9MM He harvested his first turkey and whitetail deer at age 5 and completed his turkey grand slam by age 11. In 1999, George opened GA Precision after apprenticing with three gunsmiths. Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. Tested 3.6-4.0 gr titegroup with berry's RN 124, col 1.150. So I looked up the Titegroup load data and The 115 grain 9mm load data for LRN is only .5 grains less than the 230 grain 45ACP LRN. Just In the 2019 season, he will compete in twelve two-day national matches and 15 regional matches across the country, totaling 4,170 precision hand-loaded match rounds burning roughly 131,355 grains (18.75 pounds) of Varget in matches alone. I dont think i would worry about it. I am doing 3.7gr of Titegroup 124gr bullet. She has competed on the TV series, 3 Gun Nation as well as an upcoming show called The Big Gun on Sportsman Channel, airing in Q1 2016. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Does it make a difference? Obligatory start low and work your way up I remember seeing something similar here long time back. YMMV. I tried to make it "view only", if for some reason it does not come across that way please don't edit the document and let me know so I can adjust it. More details in the thread in Tech Support for those who are interested. 9mm Load Data With Titegroup Powder - 9mm/38 Caliber - Brian Enos's Through shooting, Zach has met many people in the shooting community. You are using an out of date browser. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I will be shooting mostly target at the range, 150-200 rounds per visit. Chad is also the Director of Advertising & Media Relations for CVA Muzzleloaders, PowerBelt Bullets, Bergara USA, DuraSight Rings and Bases, Quake Industries and Konus Optics. Look at the large picture below, you can see, a normal load barely fills the case, its way down in there. For over 25 years, he has worked in the firearms industry in product development, working and consulting with small arms manufacturing and related products. You need to get teh double disc kit. My M&P and G34 love the 115 and 124s, but the 147s won't group for crap in either gun with any load and I took it up to 3.9 which is pretty hot. A forum community dedicated to Carolina firearm owners and enthusiasts. Paste as plain text instead, 1.100" Starting Load Grains 3.9 Because it's a fast powder well suited to moderate-to-light recoil/PF loads, and because it is. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Ryan earned a Bachelors of Science in Chemistry and Plastics Engineering as well as a Masters of Science in Engineering Technologies. After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. A precision rifle enthusiast and owner of GA Precision, George likely needs little introduction. Speer says 4.5gr is max, Lyman say 4.5gr is max w/ 115gr bullets, so I am having a diff time digesting your data. All but 2-3 of those are with handloadedammo. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Walker loves waterfowl hunting with his black lab Pow. Hell they even have chrono`s that mount right on the barrels of rifles these days. Phillip is a 10-year Marine Corps veteran having served his whole career in the Scout Sniper community. Unique - 4.6 gn - 1100 fps. I do know its about mid charge range tho. Soon I got a lot more comfortable as I did it a lot. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Loading 9mm RN with Titegroup data - Northeastshooters.com Forums I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. 2.8 gr. Need a 9MM hornady load data check please | Glock Talk Most manuals stop at 147 grains, though Hodgdon and Vihtavuori have data for 150 grain bullets. Works good in everything from my 1911 to Glock YMMV. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I dont remember my powder charger right off the top of my head. Some flake powders have a wider range and they need it because they meter poorly. Except that is going to be huge high pressure and very dangerous. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! For more information, go towww.P65Warnings.ca.gov. All of them are asking their parents for shotshell presses now. Does anyone have a link to somewhere with this info? That's why when I figured out that my previous loads were unsafe I called Berry's to get correct info. Do not load above recommended manufacturer book maximums. 9MM - NATO Reloading And by comparison the Lyman 49th shows titegroup at 4.0gr to 4.5gr max for the same Hornady XTP bullet. She has also competed for the USA in two Pan-American Shotgun matches and the 2015 IPSC World Shotgun Ladies team that brought home gold! Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. TiteGroup is too fast burning to be a good universal powder. I usually use the data for lead bullets when i load plated ones. I like using this gun because I've heard HK tests it at 2x max pressure specs for the 9mm. 1 - 4 of 4 Posts. I plan on using Titegroup since I have it for my 45ACP. http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp, https://fsreloading.com/lee-precision-perfect-powder-measure-90058.html, Firearms News and Firearms related political news. It is very aggravating not be able to find a load data for the particular bullet you'd like to use. The current Lyman manual (49th Edition) does not have load data for anything heavier than 147 grains, but older manuals do. #1 As a beginner reloader, I'm looking for Titegroup load data for 9mm for 115 grains FMJ. Jan 30, 2011 (Edited) I can't seem to find the load data for 115gr FMJ w/Titegroup powder online or in the Lyman 49th manual. Close w/ TG can be problematic. Titegroup 9mm Load Data | Northwest Firearms I use 3.5g Titegroup under a 147g JHP. An avid shooter and outdoorsman, George takes pride in the quality custom rifles that G.A. Hodgton indicates you can go to 4.1. Still using same load years later and it's a good round. An avid outdoorsman, he enjoys hunting and fishing with his family and mentoring youth through his ministry service. No issues there. In my time I have worked on improving myself to take it as high as I can. 100% of all my handloads are done withHodgdonbrands. I use 4.5 gns with Federal primers loaded to an OAL of 1.130. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. We recommend that you use published lead load data from reputable sources. She recently took on the role of Southwest Regional Director for the Precision Rifle Series. I am now loading 4.1 grains TG with OAL of 1.135 to 1.140 inches. ABOUT MARSHA: Marsha is the co-host of Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha and is a Licensed Montana Professional Guide. Load at your own risk. Working and enjoying the outdoors were just a normal part of day to day life. If you don't mind my asking, where did your recipe come from? Same load just use the coal from another powders load. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. She helps organize and coordinate Arizonas own national level event, the Tactical Precision Rifle Challenge. So you are saying you found data specificly for Berry's plated & TG? Current Oregon State Police Background Check Queue Status As Countdown To Measure 114 Vote Approaches. I dont plan on stopping anytime soon and this year is scheduled to be as busy as any while shooting 4 different series. All loads used Winchester Small Pistol primers. The Lyman 44th Edition has data for Bullseye, Red Dot, Unique and Herco for 158 grain cast lead bullets . The snubnosed .38 and .45 ACP handloads also turned in good results. I looked at 9mm load data for 115, 124, 147gr and the range for Titegroup is, well, tight. I didn't think 4.5 grains was a max load either, because on the Titegroup container it says that for 115gr Speer GDHP max load is 4.8 gr. Used Titegroup and a variety of different weight and mfg bullets. (3.2-3.6g from the Hodgdon website). 124g berrys over 3.9g of titegroup 1.149 OAL. My conclusion is that a 115 gr. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. He took his first turkey and mule deer at age 6 and his first bull elk at age 9. Reloading Heavy Bullets in 9mm Luger - Shooting Times May 7, 2012 9mm 124 gr FMJ 1.15" COL 4.3 gr Titegroup (a little hot) I'm a self confessed TG whore but 4.5 is a little warm for my liking I stay at the 4.3 range for a 115g FMJ. TITEGROUP - Hodgdon Dianna Muller earned a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice/Psychology from University of Central Missouri and retired from the Tulsa Police Department after 22 years of service. JavaScript is disabled. Brian now competes in both the PRS and NRL Pro series. When I used titegroup my load with 147s was 3.0gr and with 124s it was 3.8gr, power factor was always around 130. A consistent shooter, Regina has finished in the Top 20 routinely and in the Top 10 quite frequently in both the National Rifle League and Precision Rifle Series. Thank you for sharing Hodgdon Reloading data. I am using TiteGroup for 9mm, but I`m loading 124 gr. Like many reloaders I ended up with 6 or 7 different powders for my pistols until I shot 5 rounds from each similar FPS loads from a bench. Although such an edge clearly exists, its significance cannot be quantified". 9mm Luger (9x19, Parabellum) Load Data: Favorite Handloads Phillip is also well known as a nationally ranked precision rifle competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League circuits. http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=9%20mm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/dm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=566352. When Wyatts not hunting or fishing he loves competing in rodeos and roping off of his horse, General. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. 3 grains? I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. Reloading is a personal responsibility and you must start low and work up and NEVER ASSUME. These loads were tested using my Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph Premium Kit. Its easy to double charge your rounds, as you will barely notice. A lead bullet is a lead bullet as long as were talking a medium hardness. My brother gave me some Titegroup. If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for aNES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over. With velocities at 1046 to 1119. Currently Jake has over 65 top three podium finishes in the last four years, another record! Residing in Cheney Washington, Jake Vibbert owns JC Steel targets Inc. and is a strong competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and the National Rifle League. 9mm has a rather consistent 115gr OAL. If I don't like it, I will give it to my buddy After working up a lighter load for my daughter I ended up with 124 grain plated bullet and 4.4 grains of Titegroup. If you can't find a properly developed published load for that combination, do yourself a favor: Call Hodgdon, and ask them for the specific load data. Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. We place limited powder inventory for sale on a regular basis on our website. She has been named as a co-host on Shooting Gallery on the Outdoor Channel. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. ABOUT WYATT: Wyatt is 14 years old and has also hunted Africa, Hawaii and other states as well. Brian spent three years in Spokane as a Zag until his baseball career was cut short by a tragic plane accident that took the lives of his parents and younger sister. Anything between 3.6 and 4.0 should work fine. Shes also the co-director of her local club, the AZ LRPRS, assisting in facilitating monthly matches throughout the year. Cases were mixed brands of commercial brass and not sorted by maker. Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Some of these loads are over manufacturer recommended maximums, DO NOT COPY or try! You are using an out of date browser which is likely incompatible with our website. The Lee second edition manual shows 115gr jacketed has 4.8gr max at 1.125 oal for 1158fps. 1.100 in. He is a four-time World Champion, 13-time National Champion, the only Triple Crown winner in Action Shooting Sports and has 600+ (and counting) local and regional shooting competitions. Soon, Zach was shooting skeet and fell in love with the sport. BrianEnos.com So filling up half way looks normal. At first I was a little leery when I could not find the exact bullet I wanted to use with the powder I was using. Some take the caution a little farther than needed but really nothing wrong with that. It's great for light target loads in revolvers but generates way too much pressure for mid-range loads or pistol loads Some powders that work much better are Power Pistol, BE86, or even the old standby . Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. Wish i could find it again. I was intrigued with 3-Gun since, as a police officer, I relied on all three platforms at work. I haven't shot any yet but it would be disappointing if I had to pull 150 bullets. Hodgdon Titegroup: Quest for the Perfect 9mm Hand Load Part 10 Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Unique. Hodgdon Titegroup: Quest for the Perfect 9mm Hand Load Part 10 I saw that there, Rusty, but I need data for FMJ, not HP. and 8 lb. LOL. FYI, when you think about it..even the amount of crimp can/will/could affect things. I found anything much lower to be too weak. 9mm load for 124gr with Titegroup - Northeastshooters.com Forums Im loading either 115gr or 125gr HP. You accidentally load this into a rifle, or a larger pistol cartridge, its super dangerous. TiteGroup and loads - Bullseye Forum Pasted as rich text. I use Titegroup in my sig p320. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. I didn't use TG; it was Longshot (or WW452AA?) In fact, Jake has compiled more wins than any other Shooter in the United States at national level Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League events during that span. I have shot benchrest, F-Class, PRS, ELR, NRL hunter, and field matches. 4 hours ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: 6 hours ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. Gaige Grosskreutz -- The Felon Shot By Kyle Rittenhouse. JavaScript is disabled. By There have been some top 10 ELR finishes as well but I dont remember the specifics. Those who would emasculate Americans by denying them the right to bear arms are guilty of aiding and abetting evil when it strikes. COAL are generally +/- 0.005" seated using Lee seating die. Again, plated & FMJ are NOT the same, close but not the same. All I ever used was Bullseye powderlove it. Titegroup This is a flattened spherical powder. "Given adequate penetration, a larger diameter bullet will have an edge in wounding effectiveness. What we load doesn't mean it will be safe for you. I have some Titegroup I am planning on using in 9mm. 9mm/38 Caliber 9mm Load Data With Titegroup Powder 9mm Load Data With Titegroup Powder By looking4reloadingdeals December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber Share Followers 0 Reply to this topic Start new topic 513 Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) Hello everyone, I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. 3.4 gr. He has over 35 years experience in shooting, with approximately 50 tons of projectiles downrange with the assistance of Hodgdon Powder. and 8 lb. Didn't see any Tightgroup on this chart but plenty others. . Generally speaking, ~3.3 grains of Titegroup using a 147 grain bullet is about as vanilla of a competition load as it gets. Clear editor. ABOUT CHAD: Chad is a world champion elk caller and two-time Eastern US Elk Calling Champion. We will pass. Shooter's Reference Load Data for 9 mm Luger I am about to load my first rounds and need some data. Growing up, Brian spent very little time indoors, with his passions being split between baseball and spending time in either the river, the desert, or the mountains. I really enjoy the community as well as the sport. Notes: Chronograph figures are for five rounds taken with the start screen at approximately 6 feet.