Does this mean the clubs are bogus???? in China and assemble in The USA. the next time i buy clubs, thats what i will be doing. RockBottomGolf.com is one of the largest Internet golf sites in the world specializing in closeout golf merchandise. This horse has already been beat to death in that I discovered fairly quickly that the clubs were counterfeit. If the letter C appears in the supplierss country of origin then be circumspect or pay with a method granting compensation for misdescription and fraud. cast carbon steel originals would have been D2 SW- 1 degree upright and forged. Sunny13:26:07 It would be very interesting to HIT the counterfit and original, side-by-side, to see the drop off in club performance. What about http://www.golfselling.com they are new too, and price offered does not make sense at all, be aware. They have arrived promptly and well packaged but my husband is wondering if they are genuine. He played with that club for a year, then he didnt like it. Or is it possible that they do get a good discount from manufacturers? Good idea for a post. A set of Project X shafts alone are $4-500. Bill Street1: 112-114 Des Voeux Road,Central,HongKong Is rock bottom golf a good site for cheap golf clubs. http://onlinebuyinggolf.com is a site Ive used to purchase a new set of irons. Tech Postal Code: 351100 Just to add to my last post. I also read quite a few good reviews about the company. Of course, it wouldn't make any difference how Miura golf clubs look if they didn't excel in the right hands on the course or at the range. However, after a successful register on Callaways website and careful inspection of the clubs, not to mention a legit U.S. based URL and shipping site, my fears were kicked to the curb. Obviously that is a tall goal, and we are not perfect, but I dare say there is only a very very small minority is unhappy at the end of the day. Cleveland What do you think? The seller said the delay was due to Country: Hong Kong The world is full of counterfeit clubs and it is only now that most people are realising the magnitude of the disception as person after person gets stung. I suspect Ive made a huge mistake and will attempt to send them back. TaylorMade's global enforcement efforts are extensive and include a variety of areas such as working directly and collectively with local, federal and international agencies and actively participating in coalitions to rid the marketplace of fakes and help keep it clean for the golf consumer who is looking for the high quality merchandise that How about gurugolf and empire-golf? If you have already paid for clubs how do you get a refund Our mission is #ConsumerFirst. My thinking says any club other than the driver, maximum distance is not as important as knowing what your distance is with each club. Does anyone know if Ebay seller yo*bo (YoBo Sports & Golf ) is legit or not? Miura is known for world class forgings. So those of you worried that you may get ripped off by one of these sites need to take a step back and ask yourself, do I really need the name brand if I can only afford to pay the $500 these sites are charging and if so you must realize you usually get what you pay for so. But they run a high number of no reserve auctions for the S7 and S10 series, the S7 sells for $100-160 most of the time on those, and the S10 from what I have seen sells for $80-150. or by third parties who have licensed their materials to Golfskydiscount,Inc. This has been an ever increasing thing these days. Its called being an accessory to the crime. We have two bags the other was bought in the USA from a shop, thus they are both similar. We will also donate 5 percent of your purchase price to help clear the pollution in the skies of China. The difference is the counterfiters use inferior materials in the molds. Tech FAX: +86.05946277277 The answers will be no, no and no. As a result, it tops the charts of the best fake golf clubs set. Recently purchased what was suspose to be taylormade R11 driver for 260.00 a good price and about 30-50 less than ebay from supplycheapgolf.com website, total counterfeit had it checked out by Edwin Watts Golf store, and the only way I found out was when I went to make loft adjustment set screw would not tighten clubhead back onto shaft, and I noticied this the first day I received the club originating from China, immediately contacted website via email, phone number does not work and have been getting runaround ever since, avoid this website as it is nothing more than a fraudulent website making money selling counterfeit clubs, hope no one else gets burned like I did. Haha man the guys making the brushed stainless looking one laying face up on the carpet couldn't even get the groove count right!!!! You expression of pleasure whilst participating in this forum is a worry. Over the past week we have been[], What Golf Item Do You Want The Most for X-MAS? GPPGolf.com, one of our site sponsors had a great idea for a contest for you guys during the X-Mas season. But I am fairly certain. I would really appreciate if you could provide a list of what you consider safe sites and the taboo sites. There prices seemed high compared to other legit outlets like rockbottomgolf.com, though. Nothing wrong with that. Does anyone know any ways to dispute the payments? I called Callaway corporate office and the guy said he could not locate their account based on their address. They got me dont let them get you. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, Tuesday at 04:47 PM, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 20, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 13, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 6, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 31, By Japanese Golf Clubs Manufacturers and Brands - ExactGolf Worldwide Golf Shops Review If you're in search of an outlet to purchase latest golf equipment and accessories, you might want to consider checking out Worldwide Golf Shops. Have you or any of your readers had any experience with this company either good or bad. Busted: Nearly 10,000 counterfeit golf clubs seized in China - Golfweek Do the big sales come in October or November? Since the clubs looked slightly off I compared them to real clubs at our local store. Are there any options for me to get my money back? My clubs arrived in great shape and I had actually talked to one of the guys at the shop at garagesalegolf before they shipped as I had inquired about a speedier shipment and they called me to try to rush it out (I ended up choosing the normal route which still arrived a couple of days faster than I thought it would). Of course fakegolfclubs.com will have the cheapest golf clubs in the world. Has anyone bought clubs from this web sight? What gives those eBay ones away? Thanks for the heads up. They seem very legit and should be added to that list in my opinion. He cancelled my ebay winning bid purchase and allowed me to select the buy it now option. Do you know if cashforgolfclubs sell genuine clubs? avoid the fakes, buy Adams Golf equipment. Thanks for your consideration. all of our clubs are the OEM products with the same matrial,same quality and performance as the official ones While Im at it, I had also secured a Diamond Tour 56 degree Inazone DT15 wedge which is working tremendously well. Me 09:58:34 Im planning to try and call that NYC number on Monday. But I will tell you that my game has improved significantly from my old Callaway x14s. Nick, First Look: Miura + LinkSoul Color Theory 4-piece Iron Set I wish I read this before I went for the mirage that is cheap online Titleist Drivers! I have a shipping number from UPS, but its taken two weeks to get that. Since this has become such a problem we thought it would be a good idea to help you know what you are getting when you purchase something online. Callaway told me my supposed FT-IZ is made out of piece of metal. We are in Dongguan. I was a bit hesitant at first, since the rep told me that they are 100% genuine OEM equipment but for a fraction of the cost (these clubs are retailed $1100-$1300), so I purchased them. On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Craig Coleman wrote: I am looking at buying some Callaway X22 irons and obviously having seen the price you are offering them for I am very interested. Congratulations on scoring some Miuras. please never buy their clubs. Could someone shed some light on this test for me on whether or not that applies to fairway woods too, cuz the magnet stuck. The seller never argued against it but was reluctant to offer a full refund. Great forum just wish i had researched a bit more before falling for a set of Callaways from Topgolfmall for AUD1650. For more information, please go to http://whois.ename.com. Callaway Have you ever noticed the exception wording on any of the sales you see from any of the big retailers. This isnt just caused by the material, but also by the angle of the club-face. And despite traditional sounding names to America, their spelling and grammar seems like it might be someone whose primary language is not English but is writing in English, kind of like those spam emails you get telling you that you inherited a million dollars, so just contact Honorable Barrister Jonathon Dawes or whomever. NS26.DOMAINCONTROL.COM, Hey Pat G. what do you say about http://www.mysurbuy.com. Weve had customers come in with clubs from eBay (that may or may not be legit), wanting us to warranty it. Hi! Miura has been making the world's finest forged golf clubs since 1957. Block their IP. Brand List . Phoenix, AZ. One has to read this post before buying any golf accessories. I will try and post some pics, just figured I would finally post this up with a few more listings from different sellers coming out within the day. I gave them heaps on the live chat and emailed for refund no luck! Good spotting Gary. Saw a show on 60 minutes about fake golf clubs from China. plz help!!!!! They have 75k sales, so is this just OEM mass production prices? The driver is definitely titanium. Thank you for the post. Reverse IP: 33 other sites hosted on this server. Do they sell senior flex shafts? Last few years ago, my friend who believe that internet cost cheap price for golf iron set than here. Also, heads in plastic=fake. Your first item on your check list member feedback can be misleading. One of these is one of Callaways superb long-hitting X460 driver manufactured from pure titanium. I wouldnt use sunogolf, i had a look at their website and my antivirus (AVG) popped up with a trojan virus alert! I bought TM R11 from Rockbottomgolf.com;do you think its real. I understand that the ones on 2ndSwing are generally accepted to be authentic. United States they arrived 3 days later with the plastic wrap still on the heads in separate boxes. Tech Phone Ext. I was looking at the new Taylor superfast Burner Drivers and fairway woods. How would I spot a fake if I can only see them in pictures? (note: an obvious sign of fake R9 clubs from China is when they do not offer KBS shafts which are standard run a mile when they say no KBS!). Country : us Remember pictures of golf clubs are easily copied from the manufacturers websites and therefore will give the appearance of the genuine article. Did you notice is was hard to understand, it started one sentence with a lower case letter and that it used American spelling when it is trying to pass itself off as a British website with prices in pounds sterling. the typhoon in guangzhou. What the meaning of OEM in the world of golf club manufacturing is, Im not really sure. And, if you are writing at other places, I would like 99% sure it is a counterfeit operation. Instead, go to a reputable golf store and try and buy. Has anyone bought clubs from easygolforder.com? Then there is NO question as to the legitamacy. Incredible!!! We are here to help educate and empower golfers. 1 x Tour Response 950 4-PW RH Golf Clubs Admin City: yiwu Miura "1957 Series" KM-006 Forged Blade Putter Right Handed. The dealer admitted that it was hard to see, but there were some differences. . Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Tech Postal Code: 322000 Please be careful and dont be cheated at http://www.wholesaleclubsgolf.com. They are the cheapest around my area, it is a family run business. Branding and lofts will be in a slightly different location on the club head. xxxxxxxxxxxx.com really a legitimate outlet? Bill Phone Ext. Almost all of the big chains have had to implement mandatory inspections of every club that comes through their shop because the quality of the counterfeits are getting so good. The grips were Taylormade grips but they had the alinement marks which the real club does not have since you are rotating the shaft with the adjustments you make. Miura VS Seven Golf - Japanese Equipment - MyGolfSpy Forum stay as far away from them as you can. This site sells counterfeits. 184 for a set of X22 is extremely cheap. I purchased a set of Mizuno mp 52 from golfclubseller and got a reply from shoponlinewholesaler. Great Forum! The KM 700 irons are truly works of art. Another clue. Is he cheaing? ; Aragons; Asturianu; ; Bn-lm-g; ; () ; Bosanski Great items great price (I got 2 for 1 woods on black friday). Heres an example of a golf store that sold many products & operated out of the United States (shipped straight from the factory HAHAHA). The clubs are shown on Taylormades website if you look under the Taylormade Japan. Registered Bladeocrat I know there are fake Miuras out there being sold especially on the Chinese sites. Just wondering if anyone knows anything about http://www.hygolfcn.com , i just brought the new taylormade white ghost putter tm-110 model . but scotty cameron dont allow any putter to be sold under 299 over the net, I 20:24:51 If so, was it real? Does anybody know anything about BHMgolf.com? My son wants to order from them thanks, I just recieved a Scotty Camaron putter from them and compaired it to my own, seems okay the weight is good it sits behind the ball well, checked on the Scotty Camaron wedsite and is identical to the ones on screen, so if it is fake then its flipping good. tel: You guys really have to open your eyes. I like this site since you can choose your shafts so it looks like you would almost be getting some great clubs for your fit. */. The clubs tested very well. How much do you think you know about Japanese Golf Club Manufacturing Material used is much stiffer and not as supple as the authentic. Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com, Created on..: Wed, Aug 22, 2001 disclaims any and all warranties, expressed or implied, for any merchandise offered on this site. But this time they use pot metal (diecast zinc) instead of 303,304 or 431 stainless and steel instead of titanium on the woods and drivers. I checked with this club and it seem not real original to me, because the swingweight is off the scale on each iron. The Hot 500 list can be found on the Entrepreneur Website at http://www.entrepreneur.com/magazine/hot500/index.html. The 8 iron has the serial number, and also did the magnet test. I saw a deal for a Titleist 910 D2 Driver for 269.99 at golfonlinewholesale.com. Seriously guy, I feel absolutely nothing for your loss. so.. dont ever buy from them we get completely ripped off!!!!! But, I would love to confirmation from Miura as to why the difference in the number font/angle. Im pretty suspicious of them, would appreciate any feedback. Hurricane may not have the latest from the OEMs but they do usually carry last years model and overstock items at some serious discounts. 4-PW composition. But it seems like those should have already been registered. I recently made an enquiry on http://www.aliexpress.com regarding the Taylor Made R11 driver, i was assured that the product was original and no mention of OEM or anything like that, the price was alot cheaper than shops ect but more than most on ebay, so i thought i would be getting a bargain, and even cheaper if i bought more than one, so i thought that if i listed one of these on ebay, i could order 2 (one for me and one for whoever bought from me on ebay) and get it cheaper!! Rockbottom gets their inventory from pro shops, golf courses, and other types of retailers that are going out of business. you should be able to click on it if it were legitimate. Hi guys.Im looking into buying a set of Titleist Ap2 irons with precision shaft 5.5.Im looking at this site http://www.discountsgolfclubs.com and they are on offer for $350 free of charge delivery.Clearly they are counterfiets,are they? hi all Our website cannot give a full refund for non-quality problems such as: I didnt realize before placing order that the items you sell are superior replica ones. Can this legally cover their ass under the paypal conditions? 6. I wish we could change the economic and regulatory environment in this country to get our manufacturing back. They removed serial numbers from authentic watches to eliminate the tracing of the product and sold them through internet storefronts that do not have the original retailers name. Just came across a site http://www.wholesalegolfclubs.co.uk I have taken the time to read all of the posts and am astounded that some many people are asking the same thing- is this club offered at 25% of the normal retail price a fake-duh? Me13:27:27 Miura now has dealers throughout the US and the world. They claim to sell Brand New Titleist AP2 for $299? Read through some of the FAQs for example: Q. Reminiscent of hitting a rock with a wooden baseball bat. Thanks, Pete. Sunny13:25:57 Bill FAX Ext. I have been making custom clubs for over 5 years. What do you know about this site: http://www.drgolfstore.com/, with the price tey post, it smell fake if you paid with paypal open a dispute and send a note or speak with the store to cancel your transaction..and dont accept partial refund , take full refund and report them to callaway golf, the price should be around 3 time that amount for real one. beijingshixichengqu NO55, 100000 Great Article! Ping clubs will be harder to tell because they have recently started using laser etching on their newer clubs. Hi iv recently being searching high a low for a new set of clubs and have found several websites that offer golf clubs and stupidly low prices, and like most well i hope, I was a little suspect, did some research and have found several forums about the increase in golf equipment, some have been lucky enough to perchase a good fake, but personally who create a market for these clowns to continue! The site is written in terrible English and when you Whois lookup the domain, it points to a chinese location Ive been debating for a while now whether to purchase a new set of irons online or not and after my due diligence, I came across several online retailers. Im looking at a set of Adams a12 os at a local golf retailer. They are owned by golfstixvalueguide.com. Whatever brand name you want on a club well put it on. Tech Street3: Lots more red flags here. We are starting to see more fake JDM golf clubs on the market. Hello guys! I bought a set of 09 X-Forged with 6.0 shafts and a local Callaway shop has already confirmed they are real. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! From address, it has a thick top line and looks a little shorter heel to toe, with slightly rounded bumpers. These clubs look so realistic, but perform so poorly. The business is a household name in the golfing community and enjoys an impressive level of customer acknowledgement. How about golfbase.us? I bought from http://www.BudgetGolf.com and it was a good. You would think they would be smart enough to at least copy and paste an American-sounding response to your emails. I am just asking about the quality of this product, because due to some information (eg http://www.mygolfspy.com/fake-counterfeit-golf-clubs/) I dont want to buy counterfeits. FlightScope Xi Tour Launch Monitor Miura Small Blade Irons - 8-iron Spin: 8137 rpms Launch Angle: 29.7* Dispersion: 2.5 yds Club Head Speed: 82.9 mph Ball Speed: 111.0 mph Total Distance: 153.1 yds Carry Distance: 149.9 yds Thanks. So we put the TC-201 irons in the hands of our scratch golfer by Hannah Holden | May 21, 2020 | Kit Fancy something a bit different in your next set of clubs? I 19:42:52, There would rarely no difference,sir Butand this is a big butthey can make up to $10,000 for stealing an original design by an OEMwhich is a huge motive when you consider the fact that it is more than they make in 5 years! The fakes have very sharp lines, and you can see they aren't sandblasted in the recessed areas (at least not the same). Now, it could be possible that this one was leftover stock, and the 4 iron was mixed from another set the seller does not have many iron sets for sale, primarily hybrids and drivers, from mizuno and cobra brands, along with golf accessories I know I could check the serial with Mizuno (and will, come monday), but Ive also heard some fakes put serials on the clubs from genuine items any suggestions? Can anyone verify this website. Congratulations to owning up to your moment of stupidity but more importantly this is yet another perfect example to all of us of the corruption that abounds with golf clubs and the world wide web. Tech Organization: Brandgolfclubs I was wondering if anyone has heard of them. hack facebook. Has anyone seen this place before? Is your wesbite a scam? Just my opinion. Anyone have feedback on a site called Onlinegolfwholesaler.com? A guy in China does not give a crap if your 6 iron weighs the same as your 5 iron in grams. So nearly bought some clubs before finding this topic. Anybody done business with tincup_golfstore on e-bay. But more often than not, I no longer have a choice. I get ads from apparently dependable retailers (ie: Golfsmith, TGW, Edwin Watts) for outdated clubs that are lower in cost than the newest offerings. My distance dropped noticably and the feel of the ball strike sucks with all kinds of weird vibrations in the grip. Outlaw Golf Association Member #7, Congrats! Other smaller review sites can be helpful as well in sending you in the right direction. Some of the fakes are awfully good, but I think the surest way to tell is the large amount of camber found on the fakes. golfdiscounting golfdiscounting Registrant Postal Code: 351100 Good information. I have to ask myself why that is. must be counterfiets? They claim: Me 13:42:41 . This could of course change in the future. PaulG, Sorry I ment Original equipment manufacture, Ifvthey are advertised as oem clubs are these fakes please. When you say all the same line-up of brands do you just mean all the top names? Ill just use that fanciful term that all clubs are OEMs, that clubs come straight from the factory (but whose factory were not saying), that we carry every brand in the world, even those you have never heard of. Whois History: 5 records have been archived since 2009-03-14. I consider these to be authentic. He got the package from UPS what I saw. Im not saying they are selling counterfeit clubs, but the deal is too good to be true and Im walking away. I've never seen fake left handed Miura irons. So the clubs are fakes? I think we can safelf add http://www.golfclubsseller.com and http://shoponlinewholesaler.com/ to the list of fake sites. It`s really becoming bad, you can`t trust individual sellers on ebay unless their clubs show noticeable long-term wear and the photos show part of their home. the seller has in fact got a very good feedback (which i think). Speaking of security, notice that when you go to the page that asks you to put in most of your personal information that it is NOT secure. Please adivise. While it started out as a legitimate question, before I finished writing it I started researching and added links, and by the time I was done I knew the answer. I know I probably sound like a representative but I assure I am just a customer. Wow. Daisy 00:21:42 They appear to be counterfeit. Its another mass produced Chinese fake ripoff promise them anything website. I am trying to figure out if the set of FT-ibrids I just purchased on ebay from thegolfhabit are authentic callaway irons. Hi, anybody know anything about Golf M Clubs, prices seem to good to be true. : The descriptions that were provided to help me spot these small inconsistances allowed me to easily identify, in some pictures, that the clubs were actually fake. By The sad part is I have actually sold a club I really did win in a raffle during a big scramble tournament. Miura stated the obvious: Ali Baba is rumored to have fakes, and only buying from an authorized Miura dealer will guarantee they're genuine. Miura MB-001 Irons Review - Plugged In Golf I know because we have these guys in my league. Really Dwayne. Admin Street3: Intersting that you ask this question. So they turn to the U.S. government to enforce U.S. patents. You acknowledge, by your use of the Golfskydiscount,Inc. This is a very enlighten article. Although i wasnt happy being called a Muppet i didnt really mind as this saved me alot of money, and saved me getting into trouble with ebay!! They appeat to be genuine as prices are not that cheap, but good deals are currently being offered on various irons etc. They claim to be a factory authorized dealer. dennis just bought the same irons you are talking about ping g15 from golfleading.com I live in Portugal and the shops are a bit expensive here. Head weight on counterfeit drivers is normally heavier than authentic drivers because they are not made of titanium. Can easily tell when the grooves have dirt/grass in them and need to be cleaned. Notice they say the same quality as the origials (originals)because they are not original!!! The authentic club is on bottom and has the serial etched into the metal which you can feel if you run your finger across it. I have been looking over this site and really wanna buy an R11 driver, 5 wood some Taylor Made Irons and a nice Scotty Cameron putter thing is it comes out at $874 for the lot plus free shipping to the UK, need some help from the experts please :-s ????? 5 Testers Needed! The old adage is true..if it sounds to good to be true, it usually is. I know they are 100% legit; but even better I spent 1.5hrs with the Pro who helped me compare clubs (Adams vs. Wilson vs. Nickents), my swing to see if I needed Steel/Graphite or Straight/Draw. Bought an Adams DHy hybrid at $99.99 ($100.00 off) and what was $70.00 off what most are selling at their reduced cost as of May 2014. Dedicated Hosting: mysurbuy.com is hosted on a dedicated server. Not only are the club heads counterfeit but so is everything else. i really peeved off whit myself being so silly to think that i was getting a great deal???? Address : 10821 S. Ridgeway Andrew, Ill give you some clues to the authenticity of wholesalegolftown.com. All three websites are probably the same corrupt organisation. Ive been emailing them and they say they sell OEMs but they have a gmail account and their customer service has been very short as far as responses. Same ownership but different businesses. Maybe they're drop shipping. Also a great tip for fake Scotty Camerons is when they spell Scotty Scottie and when there are many listings of the same club with the same picture. Name : Citra Joe hello? Yup, fake written all over if you look close enough, but the ball still goes straight and it is good for a second bag, or to practice .. in the garage. Once you see it up against a legit driver, you know youve been fooled. Lots of spin good bounce off of multiple surfaces, great swing weight and good shaft action. The dead giveaway on these counterfeiters is there terrible English. I forgot to bid on these which were a steal. I was recently caught up in this looking for more products for our web site. I should probably be more weary of the fake club thing because some guy from FLA tried to scam me on a fake mizuno 6 iron last summer. It gives me great pleasure to reply to your comments that my accusations about Rockbottom are ill-founded and unqualified. Callaway definitely does not, as they have a prominent list of their authorized Internet dealers on their web site. I dont use eBay that much anymore due to the fact that there are so many counterfeit clubs out there that you never what you could get. fuzhou fujian 350000 All brand new products are sold at the best price, because we hope to provide every golf players with affordable golf equipment LOL. Feel ease to buy from Empire Golf. Spurred on by an investment by 8AM Golf (the parent company of True Spec Golf, Golf.com, and others) in 2017, Miura, the Japanese manufacturer of premium forged clubs, this week announced a new collaboration with golf lifestyle company LinkSoul.The Miura + LinkSoul Color Theory Iron set is the company's latest attempt to increase its appeal and reach in a market now densely populated with .